Quick Fact Check On China Flu Deaths

by mkelly | Jul 10, 2021 | Fact Check, Vets for Trump | 4 comments

I’m making this quick post for the record. Leftists & easily dupped people keep saying things like “The 600,000 plus deaths are the fault of Trump”. Ridiculous! Facts are stubborn but keep lying to yourself if you must (delusion). If you are on the left, ask yourself which is worse, a man who is politically incorrect or you being delusional?

Below are the sorted case fatality rates by country in order from Johns Hopkins. Most of Europe did worse than the United States. Also, the United States was the same as Canada and Japan. The left loves Justin Trudeau. Using their logic Trudeau is at fault for all the deaths in Canada. Our case fatality rate was 1.8% which is equal to or better than other industrialized nations like United Kingdom, Germany, Italy, France, and more.

Cases and mortality by country

COUNTRY	CONFIRMED	DEATHS	CASE-FATALITY	DEATHS/100K POP.
Yemen	6,940	1,366	19.7%	4.68
Peru	2,074,186	193,909	9.3%	596.45
Mexico	2,577,140	234,675	9.1%	183.95
Sudan	36,805	2,760	7.5%	6.45
Syria	25,766	1,896	7.4%	11.11
Egypt	282,864	16,368	5.8%	16.30
Somalia	14,995	775	5.2%	5.02
Taiwan	15,185	730	4.8%	3.07
Bosnia and Herzegovina	205,047	9,667	4.7%	292.85
Ecuador	467,073	21,803	4.7%	125.49
China	104,019	4,848	4.7%	0.35
Bulgaria	422,414	18,138	4.3%	260.01
Afghanistan	131,586	5,561	4.2%	14.62
Tanzania	509	21	4.1%	0.04
Bolivia	451,224	17,126	3.8%	148.75
Hungary	808,437	30,004	3.7%	307.10
Comoros	3,979	146	3.7%	17.16
Mali	14,457	528	3.7%	2.69
North Macedonia	155,770	5,487	3.5%	263.36
Eswatini	19,779	686	3.5%	59.75
Chad	4,953	174	3.5%	1.09
Niger	5,532	194	3.5%	0.83
Tunisia	481,735	16,050	3.3%	137.24
Antigua and Barbuda	1,266	42	3.3%	43.25
Slovakia	391,852	12,517	3.2%	229.50
Paraguay	435,522	13,806	3.2%	195.98
Romania	1,081,174	34,197	3.2%	176.67
Zimbabwe	65,066	2,084	3.2%	14.23
Malawi	38,434	1,234	3.2%	6.62
Guatemala	314,302	9,643	3.1%	58.08
Italy	4,268,491	127,756	3.0%	211.88
South Africa	2,157,687	63,873	3.0%	109.08
El Salvador	80,932	2,433	3.0%	37.70
Gambia	6,183	183	3.0%	7.79
Greece	435,018	12,761	2.9%	119.08
Lesotho	11,646	335	2.9%	15.76
Australia	31,015	910	2.9%	3.59
Brazil	19,020,499	531,688	2.8%	251.93
Liberia	5,080	142	2.8%	2.88
Trinidad and Tobago	34,402	930	2.7%	66.67
Poland	2,880,670	75,152	2.6%	197.92
Iran	3,344,122	85,543	2.6%	103.17
Honduras	272,730	7,221	2.6%	74.09
Indonesia	2,455,912	64,631	2.6%	23.88
Algeria	144,483	3,811	2.6%	8.85
Senegal	45,266	1,187	2.6%	7.28
Colombia	4,471,622	111,731	2.5%	221.96
United Kingdom	5,075,945	128,631	2.5%	192.46
Suriname	23,169	568	2.5%	97.70
Russia	5,664,200	139,156	2.5%	96.39
Haiti	19,220	471	2.5%	4.18
Moldova	257,343	6,207	2.4%	233.55
Ukraine	2,309,264	54,917	2.4%	123.73
Germany	3,742,355	91,232	2.4%	109.74
Belize	13,518	330	2.4%	84.54
Uganda	86,140	2,062	2.4%	4.66
Belgium	1,093,700	25,198	2.3%	219.42
Croatia	360,680	8,226	2.3%	202.24
Guyana	20,834	489	2.3%	62.47
Mauritania	21,499	493	2.3%	10.89
Pakistan	971,304	22,555	2.3%	10.41
Nicaragua	8,461	192	2.3%	2.93
Angola	39,791	928	2.3%	2.92
Jamaica	50,568	1,111	2.2%	37.68
Republic of the Congo	43,694	979	2.2%	18.20
Madagascar	42,392	928	2.2%	3.44
Argentina	4,627,537	98,148	2.1%	218.40
Chile	1,582,391	33,636	2.1%	177.48
Spain	3,937,192	81,003	2.1%	172.07
Kosovo	107,835	2,268	2.1%	126.40
Armenia	226,135	4,540	2.0%	153.50
Kenya	187,977	3,718	2.0%	7.07
Myanmar	184,375	3,685	2.0%	6.82
Portugal	902,489	17,142	1.9%	166.92
France	5,865,767	111,492	1.9%	166.26
Liechtenstein	3,054	59	1.9%	155.19
Albania	132,580	2,456	1.9%	86.05
Bahamas	13,024	252	1.9%	64.70
Czechia	1,668,891	30,331	1.8%	284.27
San Marino	5,092	90	1.8%	265.80
United States	33,838,746	606,993	1.8%	184.92
Latvia	137,831	2,536	1.8%	132.58
Ireland	276,735	5,006	1.8%	101.31
Namibia	102,373	1,883	1.8%	75.49
Canada	1,427,475	26,383	1.8%	70.19
Philippines	1,461,455	25,720	1.8%	23.79
Japan	816,593	14,885	1.8%	11.79
Guinea-Bissau	3,934	70	1.8%	3.64
Sierra Leone	5,963	109	1.8%	1.40
Slovenia	257,703	4,423	1.7%	211.83
Morocco	539,839	9,351	1.7%	25.64
Montenegro	100,430	1,620	1.6%	260.39
Lithuania	279,094	4,396	1.6%	157.74
Panama	413,626	6,614	1.6%	155.75
Austria	651,291	10,722	1.6%	120.78
Botswana	75,388	1,202	1.6%	52.18
Libya	201,236	3,232	1.6%	47.69
Saint Lucia	5,380	86	1.6%	47.05
Saudi Arabia	498,906	7,947	1.6%	23.19
Sao Tome and Principe	2,387	37	1.6%	17.20
Zambia	172,405	2,736	1.6%	15.32
Bangladesh	1,000,543	16,004	1.6%	9.82
Cameroon	80,858	1,324	1.6%	5.12
Ethiopia	276,871	4,342	1.6%	3.87
Uruguay	375,902	5,790	1.5%	167.26
Switzerland	704,943	10,898	1.5%	127.09
Azerbaijan	336,962	4,982	1.5%	49.70
Kyrgyzstan	137,058	2,083	1.5%	32.26
Georgia	374,836	5,421	1.4%	145.71
Lebanon	547,170	7,871	1.4%	114.81
Malta	30,851	420	1.4%	83.56
Nepal	652,859	9,340	1.4%	32.65
Equatorial Guinea	8,790	122	1.4%	9.00
Cambodia	59,045	855	1.4%	5.19
Central African Republic	7,142	98	1.4%	2.07
Sweden	1,092,540	14,643	1.3%	142.37
Jordan	755,948	9,818	1.3%	97.19
Costa Rica	380,482	4,773	1.3%	94.56
Monaco	2,611	33	1.3%	84.69
India	30,795,716	407,145	1.3%	29.80
Djibouti	11,614	155	1.3%	15.92
Sri Lanka	271,483	3,434	1.3%	15.75
Nigeria	168,442	2,122	1.3%	1.06
Benin	8,227	105	1.3%	0.89
Democratic Republic of the Congo	12,790	167	1.3%	0.19
Oman	281,688	3,371	1.2%	67.76
Iraq	1,414,925	17,476	1.2%	44.46
Dominican Republic	332,384	3,879	1.2%	36.12
Barbados	4,128	48	1.2%	16.72
Venezuela	282,940	3,264	1.2%	11.45
South Korea	166,722	2,038	1.2%	3.94
Burkina Faso	13,506	168	1.2%	0.83
Luxembourg	72,010	819	1.1%	132.12
West Bank and Gaza	315,047	3,579	1.1%	76.39
Rwanda	46,837	534	1.1%	4.23
Mozambique	86,249	947	1.1%	3.12
South Sudan	10,891	117	1.1%	1.06
Brunei	266	3	1.1%	0.69
Netherlands	1,736,666	18,048	1.0%	104.13
Serbia	717,403	7,067	1.0%	101.76
Estonia	131,396	1,270	1.0%	95.73
Finland	97,651	976	1.0%	17.68
Papua New Guinea	17,292	177	1.0%	2.02
Mauritius	1,858	18	1.0%	1.42
Andorra	14,075	127	0.9%	164.63
Turkey	5,465,094	50,096	0.9%	60.05
Cabo Verde	32,928	289	0.9%	52.55
Togo	14,176	133	0.9%	1.65
New Zealand	2,766	26	0.9%	0.53
Israel	845,379	6,434	0.8%	71.07
Denmark	298,970	2,539	0.8%	43.64
Belarus	425,804	3,236	0.8%	34.18
Thailand	317,506	2,534	0.8%	3.64
Ghana	96,971	797	0.8%	2.62
Kazakhstan	505,630	3,561	0.7%	19.23
Malaysia	817,838	5,980	0.7%	18.72
Uzbekistan	115,011	764	0.7%	2.28
Guinea	24,020	175	0.7%	1.37
Côte d’Ivoire	48,776	318	0.7%	1.24
Tajikistan	13,753	100	0.7%	1.07
Kuwait	372,549	2,089	0.6%	49.65
Norway	132,966	796	0.6%	14.88
Cuba	224,818	1,451	0.6%	12.80
Gabon	25,164	162	0.6%	7.46
Saint Kitts and Nevis	520	3	0.6%	5.68
Bahrain	267,038	1,374	0.5%	83.72
Cyprus	82,463	380	0.5%	31.70
Mongolia	134,270	660	0.5%	20.46
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines	2,241	12	0.5%	10.85
Fiji	9,521	51	0.5%	5.73
Eritrea	6,259	29	0.5%	nan
Seychelles	16,679	74	0.4%	75.80
Iceland	6,555	29	0.4%	8.03
Vietnam	26,608	110	0.4%	0.11
Maldives	74,903	213	0.3%	40.12
Qatar	223,175	598	0.3%	21.12
United Arab Emirates	647,182	1,853	0.3%	18.97
Timor-Leste	9,710	25	0.3%	1.93
Singapore	62,678	36	0.1%	0.63
Burundi	5,608	8	0.1%	0.07
Laos	2,537	3	0.1%	0.04

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4 Comments

Jon B on July 11, 2021 at 2:55 am

Just a quick post about your table. There are 180 countries in the list. The United States is ranked 160! According to the table, there are only 20 countries with a worse death per capita! Even using the Case-Fatality Rate, the USA is ranked 102 out of 180!

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Mike Kelly on July 11, 2021 at 11:09 am

First, let’s remember this post addresses those who want to blame Trump for China Flu deaths. You did that in a previous comment. That is ridiculous and driven by either brainwashing or emotional hatred, not the facts or data.

If you have Excel or Numbers you can copy and paste the data and sort it and the farthest left column will give you the row number. That way you can see the ranking compared to other countries. I’m showing Case Mortality because that is what really counts. The United States has over 82% of the population living in urban areas.

As you may recall, part of my job was biological and chemical warfare decontamination for aircrews. Keeping your distance from a source of contamination is a major way to reduce risk. With 82% of our population living in urban areas, it is no wonder transmission rates are high. It is unfair and complicated to make these kinds of analyses in relation to over 180 countries. We all have varying rates of urbanization, geography, and population. I’m guessing you would rather live in another country where case fatality rates were higher???

There are 181 countries on the list. Using Numbers or Excel, looking at Case Fatality the United States is on line 82 out of 181. That means those who got China Flu in the United States were much less likely to die from the disease compared to those with higher case mortality rates. We rank much better than average and you can look at westernized nations that were equal or far worse than we were.

Bottom line: The United States did no better or worse than most industrialized nations. We also created the vaccine under pressure from President Trump. As controversial as that is we would likely be approaching over a million dead without it. So, if you are going to blame Trump for China Flu deaths then you are going to have to hold the leaders of 80 plus other nations accountable for their deaths.

Jon, if you cannot admit you are wrong to blame Trump for the over 600,000 deaths in America from China Flu I have nothing further to say to you. You can have your own opinion but not your own facts. Trump was in no way responsible for the deaths and anyone who suggests that he is exposed themselves as an irrational person.

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Jon B on July 13, 2021 at 2:08 am

I apologize for the disparity in the count of countries. I must have missed one line when I copied and pasted.

I am not saying that Trump was personally responsible for all of the deaths. But his policies and treating the pandemic as a hoax greatly contributed to the number of deaths. Yes, he pushed companies for vaccine roll out. But the first one out of the gate was Pfizer, not part of “Operation Warp Speed”. Do you really believe that Trump’s urging is the only reasons vaccines got developed as fast as they did? He helped a lot, but it would have been developed soon anyway.

How many lives would have been saved if Trump had not ”downplayed” the pandemic? (Which he admitted to doing in several interviews) How many lives would have been saved if Trump had not made mask wearing a political statement? How many lives would have been saved if Trump had pushed vaccines? MIT determined way back in August that mask wearing alone would prevent 40% of deaths. Why did he make a health issue a political one? I am not wrong to blame Trump for a lot of the 600k deaths, because so many could have been prevented if Trump had cared more for the American People than for our stock exchange. (In the interview where he confessed to downplaying the pandemic so the Dow Jones and other averages would stay strong) If that means you won’t talk to me anymore, Okay. But didn’t you make a comment about Liberals only hearing one side unless they watch Fox or others. Do you pay attention to MSNBC or other liberal rags? MSNBC is slanted to the left, but Fox News is slanted just as much but to the right.

“If you have Excel or Numbers…”, I’m not sure what data you want. I just sorted the data you presented. I sorted it on both “Case Mortality” and “Deaths per 100k”. When I sorted the “Case Mortality” the USA was ranked 102 out of 181 countries listed. The ranking when I sorted on Per Capita the USA ranked 160. I apologize, I can’t show the file as I don’t know how to attach the Excel file here.

Yes, there were a lot of “Industrial Nations” that had worse numbers. So What? I don’t live in those countries. And I don’t have to hold the leaders of the “80 plus other nations” responsible for the number of deaths in their countries, that’s their citizens responsibility.

You ask if I can show data to support my claims. Can you show any evidence that supports Trump’s fraudulent Fraud claims? (Couldn’t resist the pun, sorry) I have asked here several times as well as asking numerous other people and sites. But I have not been shown any. Sorry for being a little off topic.

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Mike Kelly on July 13, 2021 at 10:34 am

Well Joh, here is what you said that caused me to post this quick article. “Maybe my dislike blinds me to some of Trump’s accomplishments. But your devotion blinds you to his multitude of faults. Starting with over 600k deaths.” Click here to see.

You are not the only one who says things that imply Trump is responsible for China Flu deaths. No, China is responsible for China Flu deaths and that’s why Trump and others emphasize China Flu and not Covid 19. We often name diseases based on their origin point and even people. Click here to verify.

Now you clarify by saying “I am not saying that Trump was personally responsible for all of the deaths.” That is progress. OK, tell me how many he is responsible for. Give me a number. I will even settle for an approximate number. No, you can’t. It is ridiculous. I can just as easily say if Biden had been in charge there would have been over a million dead. How can I make that charge? Well, simply look at the history of the Swine Flu. Obama put Biden in charge of that like Trump put Pence in charge of the China Flu. Remember what Biden’s Chief of Staff, Ron Klain said:

Sixty million Americans got H1N1 during that period of time. It is purely a fortuity that this isn’t one of the great mass casualty events in American history. It had nothing to do with us doing anything right. It was just luck.

Click here for the full article.

They actually stopped county Swine Flu cases. Had that been China Flu well over a million would be dead. Stop using this line of attack. You don’t have any clue that it would have been better with Biden or anyone else as President.

Yep, Trump downplayed it. He admitted that. Have you ever asked why? If you thought the toilet paper shortage was a big deal imagine what would have happened if Trump panicked us all! It is not like he didn’t take serious steps behind the scenes. Do you remember that he caught a lot of heat from the left for shutting down international travel with China and then Europe etc? Let me give you an analogy.

The doctor tells you that you have cancer. Would you rather hear encouraging words like “We have great new medicines and treatments for your type of cancer.” or “You don’t have long to live.”? Take your pick. Also, wasn’t it FDR (Democrat President) that said “There is nothing to fear but fear itself!” during his inauguration, relating to the Great Depression. Wow, that was a downplay if I ever heard one. Yet, that quote lives today as a positive thing. The way you see Trump’s “downplay” only exposed your confirmation bias. It will play on the left but not on the right or with the middle reasonable people.

Now onto the subject of news in general. I look at all news with an eye towards skepticism. Many who know me well have branded me with a middle name like pro wrestlers. They call me Mike (The Verifier) Kelly. I trust very little of what I hear from people with a bias, which is most people. Greg Gutfeld started saying something I’ve been saying for years. First, news outlets should clearly mark if the story is news or commentary. If it is both then put it on screen. That way people who don’t understand the difference will be notified. The second thing he is now saying that I’ve been saying for years is the outrage on both left and right in media is about advertising dollars. I wonder if Greg or one of his people has been reading this blog. After all, Jetpack says we have over 137,000 readers who subscribed. Maybe there is a glitch in their system. That seems like a lot.

Lastly, I did not understand your last paragraph. If you have a particular question feel free to ask it.

I’m now off to work on other projects to help veterans and first responders in the non-political world.

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